{"id":75,"date":"2026-04-18T05:50:09","date_gmt":"2026-04-18T05:50:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/autisticsmalltalk.com\/?p=75"},"modified":"2026-04-18T05:50:10","modified_gmt":"2026-04-18T05:50:10","slug":"episode-14-autistic-flow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/autisticsmalltalk.com\/?p=75","title":{"rendered":"Episode  14 &#8211; Autistic Flow"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Vince and Vanessa discourse expediently upon 2 papers about Autistic Flow. The first describes a proposed theory of Autistic Flow and the second is a qualitative study of Autistic people transitioning in and out of flow. We also talk about anarchist callisthenics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-style-default has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.rss.com\/autistic-small-talk\/2745015?theme=dark&#038;v=2\" title=\"Autistic Flow\" width=\"100%\" height=\"202px\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen scrolling=\"no\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rss.com\/podcasts\/autistic-small-talk\/2745015\">Autistic Flow<\/a><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading is-style-default\">Show Notes<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Anarchist Callisthenics<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@jonjon.jpeg\/video\/7597533190965808398\">Anarchist Callisthenics video by Jon Jon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thehappyurbanist.city\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/goatsandsoda\/2020\/06\/17\/878896381\/ancient-bones-offer-clues-to-how-long-ago-humans-cared-for-the-vulnerable\">The Happy Urbanist<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Autistic Flow<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Heasman, B., Williams, G., Charura, D., Hamilton, L. G., Milton, D., &amp; Murray, F. (2024).<a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/share\/JDZZFXR6URAUQTXPD34U?target=10.1111\/jtsb.12427\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/share\/JDZZFXR6URAUQTXPD34U?target=10.1111\/jtsb.12427\"> Towards autistic flow theory: A non-pathologising conceptual approach.<\/a> Journal for the Theory of Social Behaviour, 54(4), 469\u2013497. https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1111\/jtsb.12427<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/lGrLMPXJAuk\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/lGrLMPXJAuk\">A podcast of the authors discussing the paper<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wain, D., G.Williams, D.Charura, et al. 2026. <a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/share\/CXWVCJMS7ST8E6MNAXNK?target=10.1002\/capr.70073\">\u201cTransitioning in and out of Autistic Flow: A Qualitative Study Presenting a Non-Pathologising Approach to Autistic Well-Being and Conceptualising Autistic Ways of Being in Clinical and Therapeutic Settings.\u201d <\/a>Counselling and Psychotherapy Research26, no. 1: e70073. https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/capr.70073.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Researchers<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/heasmanflowlab.com\/\">Heasman Flow Lab<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.drgemmawilliams.com\/about\">Gemma Williams<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.yorksj.ac.uk\/our-staff\/staff-profiles\/divine-charura.php\">Divine Charura<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/brightontherapypartnership.org.uk\/professor-divine-charura-interview\/\">(interview)<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.yorksj.ac.uk\/our-staff\/staff-profiles\/lorna-hamilton.php\">Lorna Hamilton<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/ray.yorksj.ac.uk\/profile\/783\">(RaY)<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/drlornaham.bsky.social\">(BlueSky)<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/profile\/Damian-Milton\">Damian Milton<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/participatoryautismresearch.wordpress.com\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/participatoryautismresearch.wordpress.com\/\">(Participatory Autism Research)<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/oolong.co.uk\/\">Fergus Murray<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/heasmanflowlab.com\/daniella-wain\">Daniella Wain<\/a><br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/aspireautismconsultancy.co.uk\/deborah-wortman\/\">Deborah Wortman<\/a><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Weird Pride Day<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/weirdpride.day\/\">https:\/\/weirdpride.day\/<\/a><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Double Empathy Problem <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/366888965_Autism_and_the_'double_empathy_problem'\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/366888965_Autism_and_the_'double_empathy_problem'\">Milton, Damian &amp; Waldock, Krysia &amp; Keates, Nathan. (2023). Autism and the \u2018double empathy problem\u2019.<\/a> 10.4324\/9781003189978-6.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/254245139_On_the_ontological_status_of_autism_The_'double_empathy_problem'\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/254245139_On_the_ontological_status_of_autism_The_'double_empathy_problem'\">Milton, Damian. (2012). On the ontological status of autism: The &#8216;double empathy problem&#8217;. <\/a>Disability &amp; Society &#8211; DISABIL SOC. 27. 1-5. 10.1080\/09687599.2012.710008.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Monotropism<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>A website with tonnes of resources and links about monotropism:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/monotropism.org\/\">monotropism.org<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vince and Vanessa discourse expediently upon 2 papers about Autistic Flow. 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